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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Burning Babylon on June 24, 2013, 04:10 pm

Title: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: Burning Babylon on June 24, 2013, 04:10 pm
This thread will list all Countries/Regions on Silk Road and how many listings each one has with the option "Domestic Only" enabled, for more information on background on what countries are available see my thread Home Country Setting on Silk Road: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=171551.msg1239820 I will at first list every single Country/Region (244 in total) on Silk Road with its amount of listings, secondly I will compile a secondary list with only those Countries/Regions who had any listings at all and finally a list with percentages at the end. :)

undeclared: 16517
Afghanistan: 0
Albania: 0
Algeria: 0
American Samoa: 0
Andorra: 0
Angola: 0
Anguilla: 0
Antigua and Barbuda: 0
Argentina: 0
Armenia: 0
Aruba: 0
Australia: 757
Austria: 21
Azerbaijan: 0
Bahamas: 0
Bahrain: 0
Bangladesh: 0
Barbados: 0
Belarus: 0
Belgium: 58
Belize: 0
Benin: 0
Bermuda: 0
Bhutan: 0
Bolivia: 0
Bonaire: 0
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 0
Botswana: 0
Brazil: 0
British Indian Ocean Ter: 0
Brunei: 0
Bulgaria: 3
Burkina Faso: 0
Burundi: 0
Cambodia: 0
Cameroon: 0
Canada: 963
Canary Islands: 0
Cape Verde: 0
Cayman Islands: 0
Central African Republic: 0
Chad: 0
Channel Islands: 0
Chile: 0
China: 723
Christmas Island: 0
Colombia: 0
Comoros: 0
Congo: 0
Cook Islands: 0
Costa Rica: 0
Cote D'Ivoire: ? / http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=176746.0
Croatia: 0
Cuba: 0
Curacao: 0
Cyprus: 0
Czech Republic: 207
Denmark: 80
Djibouti: 0
Dominica: 0
Dominican Republic: 0
East Timor: 0
Egypt: 0
El Salvador: 0
Equatorial Guinea: 0
Eritrea: 0
Estonia: 0
Ethiopia: 0
Falkland Islands: 0
Faroe Islands: 0
Fiji: 0
Finland: 18
France: 35
French Guiana: 0
French Polynesia: 0
French Southern Ter: 0
Gabon: 0
Gambia: 0
Georgia: 0
Germany: 710
Ghana: 6
Gibraltar: 0
Great Britain: 6
Greece: 0
Greenland: 0
Grenada: 0
Guadeloupe: 0
Guam: 0
Guatemala: 0
Guinea: 0
Guyana: 0
Haiti: 0
Honduras: 0
Hong Kong: 14
Hungary: 105
Iceland: 0
India: 540
Indonesia: 69
Iran: 0
Iraq: 0
Ireland: 36
Isle of Man: 0
Israel: 0
Italy: 93
Jamaica: 0
Japan: 12
Jordan: 0
Kazakhstan: 0
Kenya: 0
Kiribati: 0
Korea North: 0
Korea South: 1
Kuwait: 0
Kyrgyzstan: 0
Laos: 0
Latvia: 0
Lebanon: 0
Lesotho: 0
Liberia: 0
Libya: 0
Liechtenstein: 0
Lithuania: 3
Luxembourg: 0
Macau: 0
Macedonia: 0
Madagascar: 0
Malaysia: 0
Malawi: 0
Maldives: 0
Mali: 0
Malta: 0
Marshall Islands: 0
Martinique: 0
Mauritania: 0
Mauritius: 0
Mayotte: 0
Mexico: 0
Midway Islands: 0
Moldova: 152
Monaco: 1
Mongolia: 0
Montserrat: 0
Morocco: 0
Mozambique: 0
Myanmar: 0
Nambia: 0
Nauru: 0
Nepal: 0
Netherland Antilles: 0
Netherlands: 1093
Nevis: 0
New Caledonia: 0
New Zealand: 29
Nicaragua: 0
Niger: 0
Nigeria: 0
Niue: 0
Norfolk Island: 0
Norway: 58
Oman: 0
Pakistan: 1
Palau Island: 0
Palestine: 0
Panama: 0
Papua New Guinea: 0
Paraguay: 0
Peru: 12
Philippines: 12
Pitcairn Island: 0
Poland: 205
Portugal: 76
Puerto Rico: 0
Qatar: 0
Republic of Montenegro: 0
Republic of Serbia: 0
Reunion: 0
Romania: 0
Russia: 17
Rwanda: 0
St Barthelemy: 0
St Eustatius: 0
St Helena: 0
St Kitts-Nevis: 0
St Lucia: 0
St Maarten: 0
St Pierre and Miquelon: 0
St Vincent and Grenadines: 0
Saipan: 0
Samoa: 0
Samoa American: 0
San Marino: 0
Sao Tome and Principe: 0
Saudi Arabia: 0
Senegal: 0
Seychelles: 0
Sierra Leone: 0
Singapore: 29
Slovakia: 9
Slovenia: 17
Solomon Islands: 0
Somalia: 0
South Africa: 9
Spain: 297
Sri Lanka: 0
Sudan: 0
Suriname: 0
Swaziland: 0
Sweden: 155
Switzerland: 8
Syria: 0
Tahiti: 0
Taiwan: 0
Tajikistan: 0
Tanzania: 0
Thailand: 7
Togo: 0
Tokelau: 0
Tonga: 0
Trinidad and Tobago: 0
Tunisia: 0
Turkey: 0
Turkmenistan: 0
Turks and Caicos Is: 0
Tuvalu: 0
Uganda: 0
Ukraine: 2
United Arab Emirates: 0
United Kingdom: 1755
United States of America: 4055
Uruguay: 0
Uzbekistan: 0
Vanuatu: 0
Vatican City State: 1
Venezuela: 0
Vietnam: 2
Virgin Islands (Brit): 0
Virgin Islands (USA): 0
Wake Island: 0
Wallis and Futana Is: 0
Yemen: 0
Zaire: 0
Zambia: 0
Zimbabwe: 0

Refined:

Below I'll list only those Countries/Regions that have more than one listing, with some thoughts afterwards:

undeclared: 16517
Australia: 757
Austria: 21
Belgium: 58
Bulgaria: 3
Canada: 963
China: 723
Czech Republic: 207
Denmark: 80
Finland: 18
France: 35
Germany: 710
Ghana: 6
Great Britain: 6
Hong Kong: 14
Hungary: 105
India: 540
Indonesia: 69
Ireland: 36
Italy: 93
Japan: 12
Korea South: 1
Lithuania: 3
Moldova: 152
Monaco: 1
Netherlands: 1093
New Zealand: 29
Norway: 58
Pakistan: 1
Peru: 12
Philippines: 12
Poland: 205
Portugal: 76
Russia: 17
Singapore: 29
Slovakia: 9
Slovenia: 17
South Africa: 9
Spain: 297
Sweden: 155
Switzerland: 8
Thailand: 7
Ukraine: 2
United Kingdom: 1755
United States of America: 4055
Vatican City State: 1
Vietnam: 2

So from the original 244 options there's only 47 who actually has any listings at all, that means only 18,8524 % of all Countries/Regions has any presence at all on Silk Road currently. Now I understand why there is such a system in place but I'm beginning to think it doesn't really fill its purpose to its fullest extent. To demonstrate my point the clearest on this take the region "Wake Island", now technically its currently recognized under an updated definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Minor_Outlying_Islands but setting that aside temporarily for the sake of argument; Why would anyone ever set their Home Country Setting to Wake Islands? In the event someone actually did start shipping drugs out of this region this there would be a massive American military presence which wouldn't need much time to find whoever is doing this as its not exactly a big area to search. My suggestion would be to delete all Regions with 0 listings and only re-add them the moment a new vendor registers for that specific Region.

For a third list, sorted by amount of listings: ( Note: All Regions combined without undeclared gives the figure 12462, so I'm basing percentage off that instead of undeclared )

United States of America: 4055 ( 32,5389 % )
United Kingdom: 1755 ( 14,0828 % )
Netherlands: 1093 ( 8,7706 % )
Canada: 963 ( 7,7274 % )
Australia: 757 ( 6,0744 % )
China: 723 ( 5,8016 % )
Germany: 710 ( 5,6973 % )
India: 540 ( 4,3331 % )
Spain: 297 ( 2,3832 % )
Czech Republic: 207 ( 1,6610 % )
Poland: 205 ( 1,6450 % )
Sweden: 155 ( 1,2437 % )
Moldova: 152 ( 1,2197 % )
Hungary: 105 ( 0,8425 % )
Italy: 93 ( 0,7462 % )
Denmark: 80 ( 0,6419 % )
Portugal: 76 ( 0,6098 % )
Indonesia: 69 ( 0,5536 % )
Belgium: 58 ( 0,4654 % )
Norway: 58 ( 0,4654 % )
Ireland: 36 ( 0,2888 % )
France: 35 ( 0,2808 % )
New Zealand: 29 ( 0,2327 % )
Singapore: 29 ( 0,2327 % )
Austria: 21 ( 0,1685 % )
Finland: 18 ( 0,1444 % )
Russia: 17
Slovenia: 17
Hong Kong: 14
Japan: 12
Peru: 12
Philippines: 12
Slovakia: 9
South Africa: 9
Switzerland: 8
Thailand: 7
Ghana: 6
Great Britain: 6
Bulgaria: 3
Lithuania: 3
Ukraine: 2
Vietnam: 2
Korea South: 1
Monaco: 1
Pakistan: 1
Vatican City State: 1

Last 20: 1,1394 %
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: astor on June 24, 2013, 05:04 pm
This is quite an effort.

However, I think you counted each listing twice. Your numbers for the countries with at least one listing add up to 22902. I did a quick count just now and got 11971. Adjusting for the fact that the numbers change continuously, that's roughly double. I'm also not sure how you'd get 16000 listings for undeclared when there 11900 total.

Still, assuming all the numbers are roughly double, the percentages should be accurate, and other than NL and CN being disproportionately source countries, they seem to agree with the general representation of countries in the community.
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: Burning Babylon on June 24, 2013, 05:26 pm
Quote
However, I think you counted each listing twice. Your numbers for the countries with at least one listing add up to 22902. I did a quick count just now and got 11971. Adjusting for the fact that the numbers change continuously, that's roughly double. I'm also not sure how you'd get 16000 listings for undeclared when there 11900 total.

I double checked the numbers now and they still add up to 12462 to me, I pasted each line into an Excel-document and just made a formula which adds the cells together to reach that number. If I would have added the undeclared number into the mix I would end up with 28979. It could be your reacting to the fact I listed them three times in different forms? You're right though in that anyone checking these numbers for themselves right now will get inaccurate results compared to me as listings are removed/added constantly.  :)
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: HarmReduction on June 24, 2013, 06:33 pm
Arhhhh - threads like this are what dreams are made of -  Its a great community +1 and thanks this must have taken some work to do
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: HarmReduction on June 24, 2013, 06:43 pm
For a small population 36 vendors in Ireland  ::)
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: Dutch81 on June 24, 2013, 09:51 pm
I lolled about Netherlands 1093 and we only have like 16 million inhabitants.
For such a small country we are really big in serving the world.  ;D
i feel so blessed that i don't have to worry about CD and PGP stuff.  ;D
last year over here a guy was caught with 70kg marihuana, 3kg coke 10 kg speed.
Guess what the sentence of the court was?
He got convicted to serve 8 months in jail.
LOL
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: jerseycow on June 25, 2013, 09:18 pm
For a small population 36 vendors in Ireland  ::)

No Tim, 36 listings, not 36 vendors. There are only ever 4 or 5 of us at most active at a time.
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: NorthernStar on June 25, 2013, 10:54 pm
For a small population 36 vendors in Ireland  ::)

No Tim, 36 listings, not 36 vendors. There are only ever 4 or 5 of us at most active at a time.

And one brave soul in South Korea!.......Sterling work O,P.
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: cabinman01 on June 26, 2013, 02:22 am
Great work OP...that's awesome. Definitely an interesting thread.  The Silk Road is a very diverse community! :D
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: 4903kmn1d on June 26, 2013, 05:18 am
hold on. isn't Australia Iceland? ;);) nice post OP
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: Burning Babylon on July 23, 2013, 02:16 am
Back roughly a month later to redo the list.  :)

For this version I will do it slightly differently with the refined versions, more on that later after the pure results from the first sorting:

undeclared: 17066
Afghanistan: 0
Albania: 0
Algeria: 0
American Samoa: 0
Andorra: 0
Angola: 0
Anguilla: 0
Antigua and Barbuda: 0
Argentina: 0
Armenia: 0
Aruba: 0
Australia: 804
Austria: 43
Azerbaijan: 0
Bahamas: 0
Bahrain: 0
Bangladesh: 0
Barbados: 0
Belarus: 0
Belgium: 61
Belize: 0
Benin: 1
Bermuda: 0
Bhutan: 0
Bolivia: 0
Bonaire: 0
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 0
Botswana: 0
Brazil: 0
British Indian Ocean Ter: 0
Brunei: 0
Bulgaria: 1
Burkina Faso: 0
Burundi: 0
Cambodia: 0
Cameroon: 0
Canada: 835
Canary Islands: 0
Cape Verde: 0
Cayman Islands: 0
Central African Republic: 0
Chad: 0
Channel Islands: 0
Chile: 0
China: 737
Christmas Island: 0
Colombia: 0
Comoros: 0
Congo: 0
Cook Islands: 0
Costa Rica: 0
Cote DIvoire: 0
Croatia: 0
Cuba: 0
Curacao: 0
Cyprus: 1
Czech Republic: 238
Denmark: 98
Djibouti: 0
Dominica: 0
Dominican Republic: 0
East Timor: 0
Egypt: 0
El Salvador: 0
Equatorial Guinea: 0
Eritrea: 0
Estonia: 0
Ethiopia: 0
Falkland Islands: 0
Faroe Islands: 0
Fiji: 0
Finland: 52
France: 44
French Guiana: 0
French Polynesia: 0
French Southern Ter: 0
Gabon: 0
Gambia: 0
Georgia: 0
Germany: 605
Ghana: 4
Gibraltar: 0
Great Britain: 0
Greece: 1
Greenland: 0
Grenada: 0
Guadeloupe: 0
Guam: 0
Guatemala: 0
Guinea: 0
Guyana: 0
Haiti: 0
Honduras: 0
Hong Kong: 41
Hungary: 20
Iceland: 0
India: 1234
Indonesia: 68
Iran: 0
Iraq: 0
Ireland: 45
Isle of Man: 0
Israel: 0
Italy: 119
Jamaica: 0
Japan: 3
Jordan: 0
Kazakhstan: 0
Kenya: 0
Kiribati: 0
Korea North: 0
Korea South: 0
Kuwait: 0
Kyrgyzstan: 0
Laos: 0
Latvia: 0
Lebanon: 0
Lesotho: 0
Liberia: 0
Libya: 0
Liechtenstein: 0
Lithuania: 1
Luxembourg: 0
Macau: 0
Macedonia: 0
Madagascar: 0
Malaysia: 0
Malawi: 0
Maldives: 0
Mali: 0
Malta: 0
Marshall Islands: 0
Martinique: 0
Mauritania: 0
Mauritius: 0
Mayotte: 0
Mexico: 0
Midway Islands: 0
Moldova: 152
Monaco: 7
Mongolia: 0
Montserrat: 0
Morocco: 0
Mozambique: 0
Myanmar: 0
Nambia: 0
Nauru: 0
Nepal: 0
Netherland Antilles: 0
Netherlands: 1064
Nevis: 0
New Caledonia: 0
New Zealand: 9
Nicaragua: 0
Niger: 0
Nigeria: 0
Niue: 0
Norfolk Island: 0
Norway: 46
Oman: 0
Pakistan: 2
Palau Island: 0
Palestine: 0
Panama: 0
Papua New Guinea: 0
Paraguay: 0
Peru: 0
Philippines: 13
Pitcairn Island: 0
Poland: 197
Portugal: 74
Puerto Rico: 0
Qatar: 0
Republic of Montenegro: 0
Republic of Serbia: 0
Reunion: 0
Romania: 0
Russia: 18
Rwanda: 0
St Barthelemy: 0
St Eustatius: 0
St Helena: 0
St Kitts-Nevis: 0
St Lucia: 0
St Maarten: 0
St Pierre and Miquelon: 0
St Vincent and Grenadines: 0
Saipan: 0
Samoa: 0
Samoa American: 0
San Marino: 0
Sao Tome and Principe: 0
Saudi Arabia: 0
Senegal: 0
Seychelles: 0
Sierra Leone: 0
Singapore: 29
Slovakia: 9
Slovenia: 10
Solomon Islands: 0
Somalia: 0
South Africa: 21
Spain: 132
Sri Lanka: 0
Sudan: 0
Suriname: 0
Swaziland: 0
Sweden: 208
Switzerland: 6
Syria: 0
Tahiti: 0
Taiwan: 0
Tajikistan: 0
Tanzania: 0
Thailand: 69
Togo: 0
Tokelau: 0
Tonga: 0
Trinidad and Tobago: 0
Tunisia: 0
Turkey: 0
Turkmenistan: 0
Turks and Caicos Is: 0
Tuvalu: 0
Uganda: 0
Ukraine: 0
United Arab Emirates: 0
United Kingdom: 1835
United States of America: 4471
Uruguay: 0
Uzbekistan: 0
Vanuatu: 0
Vatican City State: 0
Venezuela: 0
Vietnam: 2
Virgin Islands (Brit): 0
Virgin Islands (USA): 0
Wake Island: 0
Wallis and Futana Is: 0
Yemen: 0
Zaire: 0
Zambia: 0
Zimbabwe: 0

For a refinement sorted alphabetically (except undeclared) on any Region with at least 1 listing:

undeclared: 17066
Australia: 804
Austria: 43
Belgium: 61
Benin: 1
Bulgaria: 1
Canada: 835
China: 737
Cyprus: 1
Czech Republic: 238
Denmark: 98
Finland: 52
France: 44
Germany: 605
Ghana: 4
Greece: 1
Hong Kong: 41
Hungary: 20
India: 1234
Indonesia: 68
Ireland: 45
Italy: 119
Japan: 3
Lithuania: 1
Moldova: 152
Monaco: 7
Netherlands: 1064
New Zealand: 9
Norway: 46
Pakistan: 2
Philippines: 13
Poland: 197
Portugal: 74
Russia: 18
Singapore: 29
Slovakia: 9
Slovenia: 10
South Africa: 21
Spain: 132
Sweden: 208
Switzerland: 6
Thailand: 69
United Kingdom: 1835
United States of America: 4471
Vietnam: 2

Undeclared has 17066 listings in total while all the other combined is 13430, that means 27.07 % of all listings on Silk Road are listed as "undeclared"

Before I refine further I've noticed there's some bogus listings which don't really fill any Region specific purpose. I don't mind these in themselves but for this thread these listings are no good if its a listing for a Region which has no other listings, so I'll be removing them for the next refinement. The following Regions/Listings will be removed:

Benin: 1 ( ▶►►Any ▐░░░Cracked Kindle eBook░░▓: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/31e6cfeb21 )
Cyprus: 1 ( Got a product that needs selling: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/8341723c95 )
Greece: 1 ( Got a product that needs selling: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/3d1c29e8ee )
Lithuania: 1 ( sell your gear in silkroad no vendor account: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/d230aa4c59 )

This leaves us with the final refinement of 40 Unique Regions. The combined total of listings for these regions combined is 13426. For the last refinement, sorted by number:

United States of America: 4471 ( 33,3010 % )
United Kingdom: 1835 ( 13,6675 % )
India: 1234 ( 9,1911 % )
Netherlands: 1064 ( 7,9249 % )
Canada: 835 ( 6,2192 % )
Australia: 804 ( 5,9883 % )
China: 737 ( 5,48934 % )
Germany: 605 ( 4,5061 % )
Czech Republic: 238 ( 1,7726 % )
Sweden: 208 ( 1,5492 % )
Poland: 197 ( 1,4673 % )
Moldova: 152 ( 1,1321 % )
Spain: 132 ( 0,9831 % )
Italy: 119 ( 0,8863 % )
Denmark: 98 ( 0,7299 % )
Portugal: 74 ( 0,5511 % )
Thailand: 69 ( 0,5139 % )
Indonesia: 68 ( 0,5064 % )
Belgium: 61 ( 0,4543 % )
Finland: 52 ( 0,3873 % )
Norway: 46
Ireland: 45
France: 44
Austria: 43
Hong Kong: 41
Singapore: 29
South Africa: 21
Hungary: 20
Russia: 18
Philippines: 13
Slovenia: 10
New Zealand: 9
Slovakia: 9
Monaco: 7
Switzerland: 6
Ghana: 4
Japan: 3
Pakistan: 2
Vietnam: 2
Bulgaria: 1

Last 20: 2,7781 %

It looks roughly the same as the last listing with three noteworthy exceptions. India and Spain have fallen considerably while Hungary has increased quite a bit compared to roughly one month ago. I would also add there doesn't seem much to be any reason to go through every single region as new ones aren't exactly popping up, so anyone wanting to do anything similar in the future should just stick with the established top 40 Regions mentioned in this post.  :)
Title: Re: Domestic Listings per Country/Region on Silk Road
Post by: HarmReduction on July 24, 2013, 09:22 am
+1 this is v interesting thanks  :D